Really like these pants. They're a heavy fabric and come with the removable armor in place, the picture is with the armor in. I was a little worried about the weight of the fabric feeling comfortable, but there was enough stretch that it did feel good when I took them for a spin on my bike. I emailed to ask for details about sizing and they got back right away, I went with an XXS and I'm normally a size 2 or 26 in jeans. My waist is 27 inches, my hips are 36 inches. The XXS is snug but I wanted them to fit more like leggings. I'm 5'5" tall and they're long enough that they stay put inside my boots without any skin showing while I'm riding. Good women's riding pants are like a unicorn, super hard to find a decent pair that looks cute, feels good, fits well. So far these fit the bill.